Hi Ian, yes sorry, I meant you. although I may have got somewhere, I have just been phoning around repair centres and the first one I called, said, Oh the hdr hc9, let me guess, shakey video when it warms up, I'll send you an e-mail, you need to update the software - I havent heard back yet but it sounds promising! I tried phoning sony too but there systems are down and they are calling me back within 24 hrs...